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plp 33-5-27

Wednesbury, Jan 16,1816

My dear Jonathan,

Hannah has spent her Christmas vacation at Bury and Haslingden, but was to return to Prescott last Saturday. We have had her Master here some days, and he preached for us several times. He speaks very highly of her.

I shall be very glad to hear from Mr. Lemon. I think it will hardly be worth while to give Coke's Life to Mr Bradburn but do as you please with it. Get your own copy put into Boards without delay.

I have no objection to you studying French when you can find nothing more important in which to employ yourself. but you must remember, that no person can get all knowledge; and therefore we must select such branches as are most important and necessary. And whatever you take in hand endeavour thoroughly to master it. French will an ornamental, and perhaps an useful accomplishment. I am sorry that you have not attended your class of late. Negligence of this sort is too often sign of the declensions, or at least leads to and it is much easier to lose ground in religion than to regain it. Constancy, steadiness, & perseverance in piety , are what you should especially --- at. To rush with vigour for a season, and then to follow afar off, and then to stir up again , is not the best plan. By lukewarmness and negligence you lose that what you gain by diligence and zeal; and what is worst, the mind get unhinged, and when it is so, temptation find and easy entrance.

Besides, that unsteadiness be not conquered, it will infallibly lead in the end to absolute apostasy. You must cleave to the Lord with purpose of heart; give all diligence to make your calling and election sure; and work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. I you do not look to this great business yourself, and practically and experientially secure the one thing needful, no other person can do for you; and it will be to little purpose that others attempt to draw or drive you on the road. Improve your plan and guard constantly and effectually against what have repeatedly injured you. It is for your safety and happiness in time and eternity. If you would attend prayer meetings, & exercise them, I think it would be of greater service to your mind. Break through; take up your cross, and it will soon cease to be a cross; while the benefits resulting from it will be great & lasting.

I enclose you a pound note. But I again expect it , that you must study & practice frugality. Take care of your clothes, and do not waste your time and shoes by unnecessary tramping about the city. Over much curiosity will do you little good, and will tend to defeat your mind and to promote other evils.

I send you some more of the Cynders from the Iron Furnace. If there was great demand for this composition of the dross of Iron, Coals, and Lime, I would send a box full if and persons would agree to pay the carriage.

You might write again with the Books.

My best respects to Mr Lemon and family, your Cousin, Mr Knise, Mr Cordeux, and any of the Preachers, or their Wives, who may ask after me, and Mrs. Carter.

I remain, your affectionate Father

Jon Crowther

 

plp 33-5-28

Wednesbury May 4,1816

My dear Jonathan,

Being obliged to return the chief part of the magazines for May, on account of a blunder in the stitching, I have one more opportunity of writing to you without the expense of postage.

Your two new waistcoats are made; your shorts are making; and your stockings are preparing. And yesterday, when I was at Mr Adam's shops, I saw some very nice fine buff coloured cloth. I had noticed it several times before; but yesterday I perceived it was reduced to a few yards. I looked and looked, but thought I could not afford to purchase it. But young Mr Adams urged me to take as much as would make you a suit. He would throw off 1 shilling 6 pence per yard, & trust me till after the Conference. It is narrow cloth but will look like a fine broadcloth when made up. At length I consented, & he cut of 6 yards. Miss Hallow starts for London on Monday morning, but as she will come by Dunstable, she will not reach London before Thursday. She wishes you to pay some attention to her in getting a seat at Chapel, & she offered to make you two shirts grabs, upon condition you should be informed that is upon condition you should be what she called her Beau while in London, by taking her to Chapel. She is a very ste---, honest, and industrious person. She will bring you a parcel.

I hope you have written to Hannah ling since she has been very much tried by your neglect.

Mary has had a misfortune. She has strained the back sinews of her right leg, and has been at home a fortnight, hopping about sometimes upon one and at other times upon tow sticks. She is slowly mending; but it is likely to be a tedious affliction. Your Mother and the rest of them are much as usual. Jane had begun to go to school, and Joshua accompanied her several days. One day he got all Mrs. Sadbur's boarders down upon their knees while he was officiating Minister in prayer.

I know not how it will answer, but I shall send you trimmings along with the cloth. I thought I could get them cheaper than you could. If your Taylor will make you cloaths, perhaps some other will. Mr Prendergrass of Cloth-FAir, is a Taylor & local Preacher. But if no body will make them, perhaps some person will measure you and the you can send the measure & the cloth and trimmings by coach, & we will get them made here, which will perhaps be cheaper than in London. Take care they be not spoiled, & make your cloaths last as long as possible.

Remember me kindly to Mr & the two Miss Lemon's in which your Mother joins. Remember me to your Cousin, Mr Knise, 7 any andy of the Preachers or their wives, who may inquire after me. In twelve weeks will be the Conference.

"The year rolls round & steals away,

The breath that first it gave,

Whatever we do, where e'er we be.

Were traveling to the grave"

May we ever hear this in remembrance, and pass the time of our sojourning here in humbleness and fear; in self-denial, cross-bearing, general holiness, Prayer and watchfulness.

I remain

your affectionate Father

Jon Crowther

PS I enclose you a pound note. I suppose I shall be obliged to send another with the cloth, to pay the making. Here I can have a suit made for myself for 15 shillings.

 

plp 33-5-29

Wednesbury, May 7,1816

My dear Jonathan,

I was glad to learn by Mr Knise that you take an active interest in favor of the Missions. And I should have been more abundantly rejoiced to have been informed, that you were giving diligence to make your own calling and election sure; and that as proof of this, you diligently attended every means of grace, and your class meeting especially, and that at last you had yielded to my repeated entreaties; and frequently exercised in prayer meetings. Till I learn that you act thus, as well as constantly attend your class, I do not expect ever to ----- that you are doing well, fully speaking, and shall ever be afraid of hearing something worse & still worse concerning you. You are of that composition, that if you do not actively and zealously serve God, you will decline more and more and at last serve a different Master.

I was glad to learn from Mr Entwisle that several of you employ part of your evening in endeavoring to improve yourselves in learning. And see that is very well in its place; but neither French, nor Hebrew, nor anything else, will serve as a substitute for righteousness & peace and joy in the Holy Ghost; for union and communion with God; for Christ dwelling in the heart by faith with a life wholly devoted to him. I shall be very much moved should I be spared to come to London, if I hear that you are following Christ afar off, and seldom attend you Class, except when dragged thither like a bear to the stake. But if I could learn that you possessed something like what you had at Woodhouse School and that you attended in Prayer Meetings etc, my joy would would be great. Pray more and more earnestly in private & that will give motion to the rest of the machinery.

Remember me kindly to Mr Lemon and the two Misses and all who inquire after me.

I remain ,

Yours affectionately,

Jon Crowther

 

plp 33-5-33

Manchester July 31,1815

Dear Jonathan,

I received your letter by Mr. Entwisle, I shall endeavour to answer your questions.

At my own request, I am down for Norwich. This will be much nearer to you, and you may come very cheap by water to see us. only takes a few hours.

Mr Mcnicol stays at Stockport and Mr Townley succeeds me. There is no single man, as some of the Circuit is given to Ashton. The new Preachers for London East are Mr Thomas Wood and Mr John Daires.

My colleague is Mr Beckwith.

Mr barber is our President. The were some votes for me, Mr Gaulten, Mr Moore, and Mr Reese.

I have finished writing the life of Dr. Coke and it is all gone to the Leeds. Nothing has been said about it in the Conference. Nine members of it are out.

The work is goes off very well. There were nine hundres ------, before the preachers opposed it, and there are thirteen hundred.

I lodge near Oldham Street Chapel, but you do not know the house or people.

Your mother and Hannah are very busy, and therefore have not time to write.

Mr Bunting is our Secretary. We have a very full conference.

Walk circumspectly. redeem the time. Cleave to the Lord with purpose of heart. Continue in prayer and watch in same with thanksgiving.

I am

Your affectionate Father

Jonathan Crowther

plp 31-7-8

Mr. Everett My dear brother

Please excuse the liberty I now take in dropping a line to to you. I write to you by the earnest request of the Haslingdon Sunday School Committee to respectively and earnestly encite and press you to come to Haslingdon on the 17th of September and preach two sermons for the benefit of the Sunday School service at 2 & 6 in the afternoon. They wish it then because there will be a moon, but if the Sunday before suits you better, come then rather than not at all. Come you must but if you please I beg you will as it is so much desired, and by so doing you will greatly oblige your humble friend and brother.

Robert Crowther

Haslingdon Aug 23,1826

Sept 17th if you possibly can!

plp 31-4-8

3 Chester Place Lambeth 24th Sept 1844

Rev. and Dear Sir,

I forward the accompanying letter for your information.

Of course, if the opinion of the N. Wales Financial District Meeting be acted on , there will remain a vacancy, in the Northern Branch of the Institution, to be supplied.

Believe me,

Yours with affection

Jonathan Crowther (this man is son of Timothy Crowther and nephew of other Jonathan Crowther who died in 1823).

plp 31-4-7

3 Chester Place Lambeth Sept 10,1844

Rev. and Dear Sir,

The note from Brother Arthur, conveying your direction that the mistake on the printed minutes, as to the year in which the general collection for the Education Fund is re required to be made, should be corrected by a letter to the Chairman of each district, and also by advertisements in the "Watchman" and on the cover of the Magazine, did not reach me until this morning, in consequence of being addressed to my former residence.

In reply thereto, I beg to say that your direction has been in part anticipated, a copy of the accompanying circular having already been forwarded to every District Chairman, and that advertisement, of which you have copy on the other side, has been forwarded to W. Gauhep for  insertion in the "Watchman" of tomorrow. 

The same advertisement, if you approve fit , may be published on the cover of the magazine for October.

Believe me, Rev. Dear Sir

 Yours very respectively,

Jonathan Crowther

The Rev. Jabez Bunting D.D.

plp 31-4-4

Nov 10,1845

My dear Brother,

I hope you will be able to attend the Missionary Meeting at Brixton Hill on the Friday evening next. You can go and return by Omnibus, there being a regular commication between Grace Church and Brixton Hill every 1/4 quarter of an hour. 

Please write to me without delay and believe me

Yours truly,

Jonathan Crowther

Rev W. Arthur

plp 31-4-5

Frodsham 1st February 1822 

Dear Sir,

My brother recently returned from London having informed me that you promised him to write me a letter of which he should be the bearer, and having since myself heard nothing from you, I am induced to think , either that such a letter, already written, has somewhere in London (perhaps at the “Book-Room” or at Longman’s) without much chance of being forwarded, or otherwise, that the promise, though made in all sincerity, has not, since it was given, in any leisure moment, occurred to your remembrance. Of this  promise I am the more anxious to remind you, as my brother thinks I have reason to expect in that letter the favour of your opinion & advice, with respect to the proposed publication  of a separate pamphlet on the subject which has recently  introduced me to the honour of your correspondence, and to which I am desirous of doing further justice, by the employment of all such means of information as more particular research & enquiry may bring within my compass, and by a full  & distinct consideration of every argument & objection ( on both sides of the question) which I may be able to discover, as well as further, by an application of the result to the subject of Missionary charity & enterprise. 

This will be a task, which estimated by the time & labour to be expended on it , will be, to one circumstanced as I  am, of considerable magnitude; and which form the character of the discussion, cannot be expected to produce any pecuniary enumeration; bit I feel disposed, nevertheless, with a little encouragement,  to enter at all risks upon it, and to abide the consequences, whatever they may be, whether to my purse or reputation. 

In the meantime you have kindly signified your willingness to state my “real views” in your answers to correspondents on the cover of the Magazine: and in my last letter, I think; I expressed a wish that you would extract such a statement from the substance of my last communication. If you have not done this already, I should be glad to see it done so as to appear on the cover of the Magazine for March. Such a statement will serve to set the question in its true form before the public; and will perhaps satisfy those among your readers who embrace that side of it which I have taken, whilst it can create not offence in the minds of any who think they have sufficient reason for remaining on the other. 

If your readers are not weary of such communications, I have had some thoughts of transmitting some observations (not likely, I should have to create any controversial discussion) on 1 Cor. IX 22 “I am made all things to all men”- the purpose of which would be 1st- to confine the meaning of that expression entirely & exclusively to what St. Paul has said before, and 2nd- to apply the passage thus limited as not only not allowing self indulgence or sinful accommodation in any account, but even as inculcating, by example, the duty of undergoing any piece of self denial by which we may hope to gain a fellow creature from error or perdition. The part will require, of course, a little grammatical criticism; and it should be but little; the 2nd would depend on considerations purely theological. In this latter part, however, I find I have been anticipated by some commentators, & especially by Dr. Clarke; and I am induced, on that account to hesitate a little. The first point, however, has not, I think, been properly made out, or at least not dully insisted on, an may therefore be considered as deserving of a little notice. If you will take the trouble of consulting the original, you will find the definite article employed in that passage, both before ….. & …… and will perceive at once what will form the basis of my criticism.

Your obliged and faithful servant

J Crowther

PS A line or two addressed to me with a few days and left at my brothers 187 High St Boro will be duly forwarded.

plp 31-4-6 (From Jonathan Crowther, nephew of Jonathan Crowther Sr. His father was Timothy Crowther

 plp 31-4-6             June 3, 1823

Dear Sir,

I was sorry to find on my return home from the Liverpool Missionary Meeting that unforeseen and Uncontrollable circumstances would prevent me from seeing you in Chester on the following day; but I regret much more that the promise which I gave you of an early communication has not been redeemed before this time; and I fear lest I should seem to have forgotten the promise itself altogether, or at least to be new willing to forget the subject of correspondence with which it was connected. Lest this should actually be the case, it may be proper to assure you that I still hold myself pledged to every sentiment & resolution contained in my last letter, and that ever since it has been written, it is been my endeavour, in the exercise of earnest & anxious prayers to keep myself entirely afloat and in readiness to go in obedience to the intimations of the Divine Providence, wherever the current & the gale might carry me.

But I wished, when I should write again to express to you distinctly my feelings as to the way in which, on the event of my acceptance by the Conference, I should prefer to be received; and to state some things concerning my pecuniary means, of which I could not gain anything like an accurate estimate until a few days ago, when I was called upon to be present at the winding-up of the Legacy accounts of the family with which I am connected by marriage. I was desirous, moreover, to have a little time to consult with a few confidential friends on what was expedient to be done. And lastly, in a matter so important, I as more willing to be accused of ………. precipitancy. At least you must believe me; when I say that, while I have appeared to forget my promise, I have not failed to appreciate your kindness, and that, if I have not written before, it has been because I knew not exactly what I ought to write.

I have now fully weighed over in my mind the proposal at which you hinted of a temporary residence at Kingswood. I allow indeed that this circuitous mode of admittance does appear less liable to objection on the part of the Conference than any other tat might be proposed. But still, while I profess a disposition to serve, in any manner in which I may be judged capable of doing it, the interests of the Connexion, I must say that in the present case, I would rather meet the wishes of the Conference in some other way. If there be any allowances, the immediate grant of which to me would argue partiality on their part, or would constitute and act of injustice to the other preachers, let forego all such allowances for such term of years as the Conference may consider to be reasonable. And let a fair calculation be made of what I ought to pay in the shape of arrears to any funds on which I might be likely henceforth to have claims. I am willing in both cases to make the necessary sacrifices; so that no individual may ever have it in his power to make any dishonourable reflections, on this score, either on myself, or on the preachers who may be instrumentally concerned in admittance.

Be it remembered, however, in these calculations, that neither my wife nor myself will be likely, in the common course of things to make any claim upon the "fund of mercy". Thank God, although I am not sick, I am not absolutely poor. I find that adding what I have noe in hand or out on interest to what I shall soon be entitled to receive, I may rate my property at from 1200 to 1300 pounds; besides my furniture, the whole of which is paid for, and 500 pounds which shall be due to me, in case my wife shall survive her mother. I am moreover a member of 2 years standing of the Manchester Annuitant Society; from which my wife in the event mo my decease after 2 years would be entitled to receive and annuity of 21 pounds.

I wish it to be most distinctly understood that in making these proposals I am not designing to offer any thin , in the form of either money or service, as the price of admittance, to traffic for a place among you, how honourable …….. I may reckon such a place to be; but am merely professing my willingness, if the Conference be disposed to make an offering on equitable terms, to follow the opening which they may make, at the expense of every sacrifice which the necessity of the case or, the law equity may seem to require; and that I myself consider, and wish others to consider, such sacrifices not as much as under the idea of composition with the Conference, as of a freewill offering of obedience to God. To him I owe my soul, my body, & my property; and if he pleased to call for the employment of any or of all of them in any particular manner, I dare not now question or resist that call.

On Wednesday next I expect to have some conversation on this subject with W.J..Wood of Liverpool who is coming here for the purpose of presiding at our Missionary Meeting and who. I nderstand, has some knowledge of what is going forward.

I take it for granted, nothing can be done in my case before the Conference; I shall therefore announce the reopening of my school after the ensuing vacation; as the breaking up of my school would be an anticipation of the decision of Conference.

It is my desire, however, to see you in London in the course (probably in the early part) of the vacation. As my principal motive for coming is to see you, & others of the preachers, I hope, if you are likely to be absent form London at any time between June 21st and the end of July you will apprise me of the time of such absence that I may fix my visit at the proper time.

Believe me, Dear Sir,

Jonathan Crowther

 

 

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