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plp 31-5-12

Rev. Hugh Carter

Monmouth, Burslem Burslem Dec, 11,1819

My Dear Brother;

A multitude of circumstances have kept me from answering your last letter sooner. I really feel very much for you, and it does appear to me that Brother Evans is hard upon you. I do think that poverty is your greatest defect. And this being the case, I think you may in a measure, compose yourself. The same affliction is endured by many of your Brethren who therefore can sympathize with you.

As to the "profits of Books" sold by us, strictly speaking this belongs solely to the Superintendent, especially as he is made debtor for them and has most of the trouble. But when Circuits are in one, or one in two, as with you, justice would say, that if Brother Jewett have the trouble of the Books sold at Abeyavenny, and make up all -opes there, then he ought at least to share the profits of those Books. Settle it between yourselves amicably. He cannot demand any share of the profits; and you cannot command him to take any care of trouble in selling the Books. It is an extra thing, added our ministerial work.

As to the "several Chapels, which are not settled according to the Conference-Plan", th rule you mention is not repealed. However, we do occupy sundry Chapels which are not so settled. It is well to try to get them all settled. But, whether they be settled or not, it is utterly wrong to take the Clap money or ticket money to pay the interest on money raised towards building them. Not-- one penny of the money raised in the Chapels as clap-money or ticket-money, ought to go for that purpose but that of paying the expenses of the Preachers and their families. Upon this -ead you have a right to be explicit and firm.

Praying God to help and bless you and yours,

I remain your truly affectionate Brother,

Jonathan Crowther

 

PLP 31-5-14 Stockport

April 25,1814

Dear Jonathan

In the choice of your business and station it been my earnest wish and prayer to be directed and superintended by a Providence. I has also a desire that if it were possible you should be in the service, and under the protecting wing of the Methodist Connexion. Therefore, you will remember that my first endeavour was to get you to the printing office at our Book Room in London. This I expected to accomplish and wrote about it only just before you went to London. But I was deprived of hope. But you had not been many days in Staffordshire, before I received two letters enquiring whether you were fixed in a situation, etc. I did not at first fully understand what they meant and sometime before I answered. This produced a full explanation as you will see shortly. You know the premium especially as it would be more than I could furnish at present created a difficulty from the first of my correspondence with Mr Tomkinson, however, I had totally made up my mind as to 40 Pounds. But his letter of the 21st instant considerably increased the difficulty. He wants a still larger premium and I do not know, because he does not say to what amount and it will not be now be of any use to ask. While I remain in a state of embarrassment and undetermined what answer to give him.

I received a letter from Mr Blanshard, our book seller, written last Friday of which I here give you an extract.

"We want a youth in the shop to assist in our retail trade. We had had Mr McDonalds son ever since his coming to London and he has proved a very steady excellent youth. We have now taken him into the warehouse and want another for the shop. If you would like your son to come to the situation, we will take him. We should take him into our own family. He might, if it should appear desirable after a trial be bound apprentice to Mr Cordeaux, who is a freeman of London: then he would have his freedom also. Whether he ought in the last years of his time to learn the printing business would be after consideration. In two or three years some of our apprentices will be free, What we wish to to engage him for, is the Book Selling part of the business, which he must be in a year or two before he would be of much use. For that time, it would be enough to find him his board. Afterwards, we would give him wages according to merit, ten, fifteen or twenty pounds a year besides his board. If you think it advisable to send your son, we should him to be here about the twelfth or fourteenth of May. In the interim, you will let us hear from you and say what you intend to do"

When the Lord conducted the children of Israel from Egypt to Canaan, he did not take them the direct road, but he tried and proved them by leading them about or taking them by a circuitous rout ,Exodus 13:8,Deut 32:20 yet he finally brought them to point originally intended. Something a little resembling this seems to be in your case. The Book-Room was the first object; you have been on the point of being fixed again and again and now the way opens beyond all previous expectations and circumstances peculiarly favourable. Before when we thought your going to London we seen a difficulty about your board and lodging. That is removed and that in the most agreeable way. Mr Blanchard will board and lodge you, and there will be nothing to pay. Mr. Blanchard is a very nice, mild, agreeable man and Mrs. Blanchhard is a plain, kind, and motherly woman. Formerly, when we thought of your going to the Book-Room we feared that constant confinement in the printing office might not altogether agree with your health. This difficulty is removed for part of your time you must be in the shop, which is a very pleasant airy one, and in one of the most healthy and agreeable parts of London. You will find many persons in London with whom you are acquainted, preachers and others, as Mr Gaulte, Mr Mcdonald, Mr Storey, your cousin Thomas. We can hear from you every month without expense in the book parcel and you can hear from us every time you write to Mr Blanchard. You will enjoy matchless advantages as to hearing preaching and for improvement in various ways.

I think of securing you the latter part of your time for learning the printing business. In the meantime, it will make a vast difference with me instead of having 40 pounds to advance now they will take you without premium; and instead of my having to find you clothes and for more than six years, you will after a year of two, be able to do for yourselves. These things will make to me a difference of more than 100 pounds before you will be 21 years old, and to a man with 7 children this is a serious thing.

In an hour after receiving Mr F's letter and Mr Blanchards I have made up my mind for your coming home and spending a week or two, the departing for London. Mr. Geshar, Mr Fairbourne etc, give their opinion in favour of this. Mr Jackson is of the same mind and sends his kind love to you. I enclose a one pound note. Pay what you can, make you own aprons into a wrapper to hold your things and get on the coach. Your mother joins me in best respects to Mr & Mrs. -----. I shall always esteem them. You see I and say ---- --- about the charity sermons read this letter.

your affectionate father

Jon. Crowther

ps

I cannot now enjoy the --------- hour preaching the charity sermons at Stokes. Love to the preachers and friends. Your mother as well as myself ------ thanks Mr and Mrs. F and all friends for the every kindness towards you at Stokes.

 

plp 31-5-15

Southport April 28,1814

Dear Jonathan

I am sorry to pain your feelings or thwart your wishes. But nothing of this kind is done designedly, but I may say of unavoidable necessity. We have thought, felt, and said much, upon both sides of the question. And our present opinion is, that it will be best to have a consultation with you before we come to a final consideration. But we cannot come to Stokes, our number being seven, but you can come to Stockport. You must therefore come without any further delay. And if after all examination and understanding of every circumstance of the case, it should appear that Stokes will be as good, or nearly as good for you as London, then to Stokes you shall go. And which way ever the point may be decided, Mr Tompkinson shall know in a few days. but as everything is uncertain and as ----- ------ ------------- --------.

PS As Mr Tomkinson says he should be willing to take something less than 40 pounds rather than part with you, bring an exact account of the smallest sum he will take, that we may fully understand every particulars

( no signature) addressed to Mr Jonathan Crowther

At Mr Tomkinson's

Bookseller

Stokes, Staffordshire

 

PLP31-5-16 Stockport

July 2,1814

Dear Jonathan,

We received your letter with the books and that by the Post, with pleasure.

You have seen so much greatness and the splendour in London that you might be content were you to see nothing but humble things for a long time to come. We were glad, however to hear of your innocent gratification but far more glad to hear you had gotten into a class. Nothing will do us any good without true religion. But possessed of that, everything may do us good. With the very great advantages which you enjoy in London you should greatly and rapidly grow in wisdom and holiness.

We had our Quarterly Meeting on Monday, The company was larger, and some movements of an unpleasant nature were generally expected. But whatever might be intended nothing was done nor attempted. Upon the whole, it was a very smooth, quiet, good meeting. Nothing was said either about myself, or any other person, being here, or not being here, the past year. Even Mr. Middleton seemed to be mild.

Mrs. Fairbourn died on Tuesday evening and no doubt very well. Yesterday morning between one and two o'clock they set off with her to Skipton to bury her. Mr Feamside is gone with them and is to preach a sort of funeral sermon at Skipton.

Hannah is still at Halifax, but is to come home the next week. She was well when heard from her and Mr Edmond Ashworth was here Tuesday week.

I think that we have nothing new or very remarkable. Mr Jackson send his kind remembrance and says he is very glad that while your eyes are feasted with the sight of Emperors things and other illustrious personages that you still remember an old pilgrim.

This day fortnight if all be well, I must reach Bristol.

I think I have nothing more to say at present but that you must watch and pray & remember us kindly to to Mr. and Mrs. Blanshard, your cousin, the Preachers who may enquire after me and that I am

Your affectionate father

Jonathan Crowther

PLP 31-5-17

Bristol, July 26,1814

My Dear Jonathan,

 

I received your letter and am glad to find that you are well. I think of returning home though London. But, before I come I should like to hear from you, and to know all your mind about your present situation. I am still of the same mind, that is, not to hasten anywhere against your will. But, you must consider, that every situation, has some imperfections, and that are altogether free from some disagreeable things.

Our President is Dr. Clarke, and our Secretary.

I'm very full of work, being upon seconding Committees, besides having to look after the Stations of the Manchester District.

Whether I shall finally stand for Stockport is at present rather uncertain. Could I remove without injury to myself, and the Connexion? My inclination would lead me that way, but I wish to be guided by the Conference and Providence.

I now give you some of the Stations as the stand at the present.

London- East, James Wood, Sam Bradbam, John Gander, Jon. Edmondson, James Brikley.

London- West, Jos. Entaisle, Jos.Sutcliffe, A. Clarke, Wm. Bramwell.

Stockport, Jon. Crowther,David McNichol, Arthur Triffett.

Liverpool, Henry Moore,Esmund Hare, John Stephens, Jacob Startey.

Halifax, Charles Atmore, Thos. Vasey, ????, Robt. Mather.

Mr. Fairborn for Preston, and Mr Feamside for Haslingden, Mr Storm for Rochester.

Your Uncles Timothy and Robert where they were last year.

 

Watch and Pray, Guard against dissipation, and in order to do this have a ? pattern or New Testament in your pocket and daily read something in the Bible, and that in order and above all set continually before you.

I am dear Lad

Your affectionate Father

Jon. Crowther

As to Preaching at Conference, I have little more to say, that my mind is labouring under the impression that I am appointed to preach in the Ebenezer Chapel, where we hold the Conference tomorrow evening.

PLP31-5-18 Stockport

Sep 27,1814

Dear Jonathan;

14 City Road, London

We received yours of the 19th instant and were glad to learn you were well and content.

As to the District meetings we have not had one yet, nor is it certain that we shall have one. I have been inclined to call one but love of quietness has thus far kept me from so doing, and the dissatisfied, however the may have bestirred themselves in other respects, have shown no disposition to call such a meeting. In a little time we shall see our way in this as well as other respects.

As to your apprenticeship, when will it expire, an where may you lodge at some future period, it is time enough yet to be thinking much about them. You said Mr. Cordeax would give you a note which I suppose you will look after.

Keep what religion you have by watching and praying and being faithful and obedient and get the grace which you further want. Take care of soul above all things. Rise betimes in the morning that you may read portion of scripture before you go to business. Be sure to meet in some class and that constantly. And go to prayer meetings and when have an opportunity exercise there. You will find it of a great device to you mind.

But you see how the writing gets blotted. This was done by Joshua, when they had put him upon my knee for a minute and he gave a plunging slap at my paper.

We have not had any contest or ferment with the "Hissory Sticks" for five weeks past. But Middleton Smith and I like the Jews and Samaritans, have no dealings with each other. Mr Feamside paid us a visit about a fortnight since and Mr. Fairbourn is in Stockport at present.

We were a good deal amused by your speculation about getting into an Almshouse should live to grow old and have 20 Lb a year and 2 Chaldwall foals. Thank God for all the blessings, but above all, that when we leave this world we may get to a habitation of perfect rest and happiness in comfortable and undefiled and not jadeth away and where neither money nor coals will be wanted only let us fear lest a promise being left out of entering into his rest, we should come short of it Heb 4:1.

Mr Nicol seems likely to be very acceptable and indeed Mr Triffet also and I think they will make two good and faithful colleagues. But time and events will tell everything more fully.

Your mother joins me in best respects to Mr and Mrs. Blanchard, Mr Cordeaux, Mr Knise, Cousin Thomas, Mr and Mrs.. James Wood, Mr and Mrs. McDonald and I pray tell us in your next how Mrs. McDonald is as to her health. William Jackson &------

send their love to you.

It will not be long now before I shave have to write for the books, when you will have another opportunity of the sending a letter or packet in the parcel.

Ask Mr Blanchard to let you take the packet for Mr Edwards to his office and that as soon as possible, and that at a time when he may be likely to be there.

You may employ and amuse yourself with keeping a journal of your daily proceedings and sundry occurrences and send us a copy of it every month along with the magazines.

I remain your affectionate father

JONATHAN CROWTHER

PS I suppose Mr Gaulter will be at the committee about the time you will receive this. ,give him the letter immediately. Write a line by return of post that we may be sure of the safe arrival of the parcel.

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